Shadows of the Empire

Shadows of the Empire: The Movie-Without-the-Movie Extravaganza of 1996

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In 2015, I conducted a series of interviews with some of the people who worked on the Shadows of the Empire project concocted by Lucasfilm back in 1996. I loved the project, warts and all, from the moment it was released so it was a joy to conduct these interviews and gain multiple inside perspectives on what it was like to create such an expansive project. The essay was written for the Expanded Universe anthology called A More Civilized Age: Exploring the Star Wars Expanded Universe (2016) from my friends Rich Handley and Joe Berenato. I’ve decided to reprint the essay here on my site because I feel it sheds some more light on the nearly 30-year-old project and ended up revealing a few facts that were previously unknown to me about the inner workings of Lucasfilm at the time.

I’ve slightly edited this essay for the Internet by removing footnotes and changing them to links, and other small things like that. All quotes, unless otherwise indicated, are from my interviews. For more fun, head over to Facebook and like my Shadows of the Empire fan page.

I hope you enjoy the essay.

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Interview with Dave Prowse
(Original posting: June 01, 1998)

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“Hemorrhoids don’t concern me, Admiral…” That was something Dave Prowse said to me at a party after a sci-fi convention in the 1990s. He was telling me a story about how, on the set of The Empire Strikes Back, they couldn’t hear him very well as he spoke his lines inside the Darth Vader helmet. Everyone knew they would be dubbed later, so Dave thought he’d at least have a little fun with it and get a rise out of the cast and crew, replacing the word asteroids with something funnier. That should give you some insight as to the kind of guy Dave was.

I had the honor of giving Dave his very first website presence. He had put out the call to a few fans and somehow I ended up with the gig. From that day on, he treated me with the respect and dignity of a friend, and not just a person from whom he needed something. We spoke, interviewed, shared pictures, met at conventions, had dinners, and just talked and talked about everything. I met and became friends with his then manager Maxwell Patterson, who was also the loveliest of guys. We made a great little team. The site eventually moved on to someone a little closer to Dave in the UK and I was happy to hand them the keys. Dave thanked me over and over for the hard work and I never forgot it.

There will never be a more iconic moment for me in cinematic history than when Darth Vader first emerged through that smoky door in the original Star Wars film. If you’ve ever spoken to him, you know that he was also very proud of his roles in the Hammer horror films, A Clockwork Orange, and various other BBC shows, not to mention his bodybuilding career and his important role as the Green Cross Code Man, helping little kids cross the roads safely.

On November 28, 2020, Dave Prowse passed away. To him I say thank you for that villainous swagger and the ominous presence you brought to Darth Vader that’s been so important to all of us over the years. You will be missed.

(Original posting: June 01, 1998. This intro has been updated to account for Dave Prowse’s passing on November 28, 2020.)

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ThinkGeek Product Reviews: Light-Up ChopSabers, R2-D2 Measuring Cup Set, Vader Stress Toy, and Moleskin Notebooks

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ThinkGeek.com is a glorious shopping site you’ve probably heard of before. They offer fully-licensed merchandise from geeky franchise favories like Star Trek, Doctor Who, Marvel, Game of Thrones, and of course Star Wars. Once in a while they send me a few items to check out and review on the site and I’m happy to oblige. Today’s bundle includes four items.

ThinkGeek Bundle #1

 

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Episode VII Speculation: Darth Vader Returns!?

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There are always going to be rumors surrounding any Star Wars production. That’s a given, and that’s actually part of the fun. I’ve posted a lot of speculation on this site over the years, some of which actually came true; some, not so much. When it comes to Star Wars films, much of the speculation falls within the bounds of what we know or expect, but what would a new Star Wars film be without a few new twists and turns that no one has really thought about yet? That’s where the fun lies.

So let’s talk about Darth Vader for a minute, shall we?

Yes, I said Darth Vader. You can call him Anakin Skywalker if you want, but like it or not, he’s always going to have that Vader stigma attached to him.

I remember reading a rumor a while back that said Darth Vader might appear in Episode VII. This was probably the spawn of nothing more than a fan with an internet connection, but I remember saying to myself, “Good God! If they jump that shark, I’m off the Star Wars train for good. If they come up with some lame way to bring back Darth Vader… I’m done!”

Then I did a little more thinking and thought of something that blew my mind a little, and will maybe blow yours a bit. Who knows? Read More

Did Darth Vader Suffer From BPD?

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Linda, a friend of the site, submitted an interesting article that I felt obliged to share.

Most of the time, we watch movies without thinking too hard. We want to be entertained and get lost in someone else’s world for a while in order to forget the real world we live in. Star Wars is great for that.

When films get very popular, however, people have a tendency to over-think every aspect of the film, the story, the characters and everything in between. Darth Vader is most definitely one of the most popular and recognizable characters in motion picture history. He’s been studied head to (artificial) toe time and time again but some time back, a group of French psychiatrists put Darth Vader on the couch and tried to figure out just what was wrong with him. Why was he so evil? What made him that way?

They decided that he suffered from something called Borderline Personality Disorder, or BPD. Without knowing much about it, it sounds about right, doesn’t it? I personally think there was a lot more at work than just a personality disorder, but I’m no doctor.

Best selling author and expert on BPD, Randi Kreger, came across the article and decided to set the record straight on her blog on Psychology Today. She takes on the diagnosis and backs it up with facts.  It’s an interesting read and while she appreciates the fact that using a popular cultural icon to raise awareness is a smart move, the diagnosis just doesn’t hold water.

Sources: Fox News , Psychology Today, BPD Central

 

The Path of Luke Skywalker

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George Lucas has stated in many interviews that the heart of the Star Wars saga revolves around the relationship between a father and a son. He might not have had those roles clearly defined at the onset or writing, as evident in the old drafts of the script, but he eventually got his characters there. The role of the son eventually went to young Luke Skywalker, who went on to embark on his “Hero’s Journey” throughout the original trilogy of films. He starts out as a young boy, is thrown into adventure with a wizard-like mentor, defies the odds, pulls off the unexpected, and becomes a hero. The path was not an easy one, however.

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The Droids You’re Looking For

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C-3PO and R2-D2 are two of the most beloved characters in popular culture. They are also central to the Star Wars universe. Those first lines spoken by C-3PO (“Did you hear that?”) started us on a never-ending journey full of action and adventure that will live on forever. Faithful companions and servants, it’s a safe bet you’ll never see a Star Wars film without them in it. This semi-comedic pair never seem to be out of trouble and someone’s always searching for one or both of them at any given time.

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Vader’s Floating Cup

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In both the Marvel Comics adaptation and the novelization of Episode IV by Alan Dean Foster (writing as Lucas) Vader does something a little odd. He reaches out with the force to make a cup float to him. This is during the Death Star scene where Vader chokes Admiral Motti.

The novel simply states: A huge metal-clad hand gestured slightly, and one of the filled cups on the table drifted responsibly into it.

This can be found right before the line “Don’t try to frighten us with your sorcerer’s ways…” which is actually spoken by General Tagge in the book (not Motti). In fact, he’s also the one who gets choked by Vader. The comic version is similar but the dialogue is closer to the film version.

In an interview I did with Alan Dean Foster, I asked him about this scene and here’s how the questions went:

T: This is obscure, but do you remember a scene where in the conference room on the Death Star, Vader chokes Admiral Motti (In your novel it’s Tagge) and before he does it, he floats a cup over to himself using the Force. Was it in the script?

ADF: As I recall, the floating cup was my invention. A way of illustrating Vader’s casual mastery of the Force.

T: What would he have done with it? Maybe a little mechanical straw would come out? 🙂 I guess what I’m asking is – was it just done for effect?

ADF: I didn’t think that far ahead. At the time, nobody knew whether Vader’s mask was fixed, whether he could breathe without it, or even if he was human (as opposed to being an alien, or a droid).

Matthew Yenkala, an expert on all things Marvel, wrote in with some  clarification:

The novel came out around the same time that the Marvel series was commissioned–late 1976. Shortly thereafter Thomas & Chaykin were shown a rough cut that included both the Biggs scenes and the Jabba scene–hence their presence in the comic. (Ironic that after the movie came out some readers wrote in and complained about Marvel “tampering” with the story by “adding” these “unauthentic” elements!) T&C were also given the script and the novel. Therefore the novel WAS present in their source material and consciousness.

Here is what is specifically said on the topic in the “STAR WORDS” letters page of Marvel issue #4, after a reader, generally praising the comic, comments on the lack of exposition in the comic compared to the novel (this was before the movie came out):

“You hit upon one of Roy & Howie’s greatest problems….Even spreading the adaptation over 100 pages, there was much that had to be left out. Only thing is, we think you’ll find when you see the movie that the comic book is closer to the spirit of the film itself than to that of the paperback, from which Roy took only a few phrases. He and Howie based the comic almost entirely on the film script, and many of the things you missed from the book aren’t in the movie either….Movies and comics, unlike straight prose, are VISUAL media, no matter how much dialogue they may contain, and they will always tell you less than a book–though making up for that loss, hopefully, by showing in pictures what books can only suggest. All three media have their own uses, their own problems, their own special virtues–and we encourage one and all to compare movie, paperback and comic book after they’ve perused all three.”

So there you have it; obviously one of these “few passages” is the cup scene (another would be the “Luke had heard of Wookiees….” line in the cantina scene).

It is worth noting that Marvel issue #1 contains a VERY enjoyable and enlightening pair of essays about the genesis of STAR WARS and Marvel’s involvement. One of them is the same as the promo piece in the colour section of the original paperback, but the other has not reappeared anywhere that I know of–though I am sure someone has transcribed it online.

Interestingly, this material puts the lie to a lot of other myths that have cropped up about the Marvel series, including the notions that Lucas had “little input” in the Marvel series and that “Marvel didn’t care about continuity.”

As it turns out, this scene with the cup is in both the Janusary 1, 1976 and March 15, 1976 versions of the script. In the January version there is even a second bit in which Vader uses the force to crush the cup. This part is not included in the March 15 revision.

Here’s an excerpt from the January 1, 1976 script:

MOTTI
It won’t be long before the Death Star
is completely operational, then we will
easily be able to destroy a planet or
an entire system … possibly even a sun.
No doubt there is a plan being built up
against us, but it cannot prevail. If we
were to destroy every planet that is even
suspected of being sympathetic to the
Alliance

TARKIN
The senate would not support the emperor.
A move like that would only aid the
rebellion.

TAGGE
Governor, the senate wouldn’t dare oppose
us. Now that we can take such definitive
action to enforce our will we need no
longer worry about legalities.

MOTTI
The Death Star is now the ultimate
power in the universe

Vader stirs slightly and a cup mysteriously floats into
his hand.

VADER
Don’t become too proud of your pretty
machines … for The Force of Others
is still the ultimate power in the
universe.

MOTTI
Don’t try to fear us with your sorcerer’s
ways. Even with your religious hocuspocus
you were unable to retrieve the
stolen data .. or find the hidden rebel
base .. you’re ways ahh …
Suddenly Motti chokes and starts to turn blue.

VADER
Your lack of faith is disturbing.

TARKIN
Enough of this, release him! These
arguments are pointless. Lord Vader we
still expect you to find the hidden
rebel base before this station becomes
operational. It is the Emperor’s will
… you were sent here to enforce it.

VADER
As the Emperor wills it, so it shall be.
You will have the location of the rebel
fortress and I will have the stolen data
destroyed.

He raises his hand and crumples the metal cup before him
without touching it.

 

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Rescue and Transformation

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It’s true that Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader before he was badly disfigured on Mustafar, but most people associate Vader with the black suit. That final transformation took place after Palpatine’s search and rescue mission was a success. Vader was rebuilt, and the rest was cinematic history. The shots discussed here are not all full scenes loaded with dialogue, but mostly extra bits from or changes to the existing shots.

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